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Author Topic: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).  (Read 162 times)

Lumaria

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FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« on: August 06, 2018, 08:17:08 pm »
One of my all-time favorite animes out there is FLCL. So when i heard FLCL 2 and 3 were going to release, i was very skeptical. Not only was the original team not involved, but the original artist was available and they didn't want to take him in. Regardless of how i felt before it released, i was optimistic and it looked like the new team had a lot of passion for the series. So i still wanted to give it a chance. After I finished all 6 episodes of FLCL, here are my thoughts:

Its not a bad series overall, it definitely has an FLCL vibe, but it never feels like it expands on anything or grows from the original FLCL series, just puts more on top of it without knowing what its actually doing.

In some parts, the series definitely tries to imitate FLCL classic, and in other parts the series things its expanding ideas that FLCL already but its really not. So in this review i'm going to go into detail on what FLCL progressive got wrong or not as well as the original. Of course, spoilers. So if you haven't seen the series, i recommend you do.

#1) Story and Characters
What made FLCL really interesting was how the story was complicated on multiple aspects that took time to decipher.

There were concepts like N.O., Atomsk, Medical Mechannica, and Robots coming out of peoples heads if they met the right qualifications (and i'm making it sound crazy intentionally as that's how its suppose to feel at least on a first view). But there's also the complicated relationship between Naota and Mamimi, his friends and his family. Nothing was ordinary despite Naota narrating. And it wasn't that those aspects of the story were random, they were just told at a different pace. But it wasn't like the series felt like it was intentionally vague about it, it was due to

Trying to decipher both aspects of the series at the same time was part of what made FLCL so rewatchable. In Progressive, its completely expendable. The story doesn't feel worthy of watching again. In both the crazy supernatural and the social aspects of the series, they weren't that compelling or interesting or worth investing in. Characters like Hidomi Hibajari  were typical Tsundere, but not because she had something interesting about her to hide, that's just the way she was. Ko Ide was just a ladies man who happens to get all the girls and is secretly is poor making ends meet. And the way they portrayed the town that these characters lived in, just didn't feel as real as the town that Naota lived in.

None of them suggested or hinted that there was a complicated history between them or characters. They had relatively basic lives. Which really just didn't make it entertaining at all to watch whenever i expected something to suggest these characters were more than what they seemed and never coming close. Don't get me started on Ide's friends.

and the worst for last: Haruko. The sole returning character and they messed her up badly. IN the original, she would sometimes speak randomly and tries to play some sort of rhyming game, she never was as obnoxious as she was in FLCL progressive. Her tone was completely different from the original, trying to constantly sound obnoxious as possible. The biggest mistake that they got wrong from Haruko was that even though she was manipulative, she never "brainwashed" anyone to getting what she wanted and yet thats exactly what she did in this series. She tried to brainwash Ide and Hibajiri's class in the most obnoxious way possible.

Another problem with FLCL Progressive is that it completely misunderstood Haruko's relationship with Atomsk. In the original, it was only referenced that she was in love with him by Commander Amarao. But if you picked up on the clues, it wasn't about romance. What Haruko really wanted to do was to "eat him". This was referenced multiple times in the series when she hit Naota's head she would scream "lunch time!" and get angry for Naota for eating him when she said he was the only one to eat him.

FLCL Progressive doesn't reference that at all and sticks with what the creators interpreted. Which is a real shame.

#2) Sense of Randomness
One thing FLCL Progressive tries to do is push for a sense of randomness just like classic did. However, it does it in the wrong ways. FLCL Classic just really had the right level because in some areas it was using animation changes, and in other areas. FLCL Classic never pushed random moments as part of the story, only in minor scenes. Anything that "seemed" random was foreshadowed early in the episode.

FLCL Progressive did some random things and made no sense or tried to really foreshadow them properly. in FLCL Classic, Amarao's organization felt like a real secret government-based organization trying to take out Haruko and Medical Mechannica but in FLCL Progressive, they are trying to make a giant robot out of an amusement park. And it never made sense as to why or how they were able to do that. When they do attack the Medical Mechannica plant, it just shoots giant mocchi and turns people into mochi as well. And the secret weapon was a secondary character who turned into a plant. And once again, it never really made sense as to why or how its possible.

#3) Music and animation
The music is what i was looking forward to the most when it came to the series. And the Pillows absolutely delivered. However, the biggest mistake this series did is that it didn't choreograph scenes to certain action scenes properly. Actions scenes in FLCL progressive played the music not as loud and the scenes wouldn't go with the action and sometimes they would cut off the songs prematurely. It was irritating to see. The only times they didn't do this was for the brand new songs.

FLCL Classic would also play the music in the background even without big action scenes, but the scene would always end before the song would. That is important because the song would linger and it left a bigger impression. If FLCL Classic didn't do this, i wouldn't think that the pillows would be as big as they are now.




At the end of the day, i'm just disapointed. i don't hate the sequels, but i knew what i was getting into when i saw the trailers. Did anyone else feel the same way about FLCL progressive? And is anyone looking forward to FLCL Alternative?

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2018, 03:00:18 pm »
I agree. I was extremely excited. I shouldn't have had high expectations. It's not bad like you said, but it's not the same team. You can tell it's not either.


The best thing about the series is new the pillow songs. So I'm happy about that.

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2018, 03:15:47 am »
The depressing part is that many people defend FLCL Progressive due to thinking the original is overrated.

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2018, 01:16:17 am »
The depressing part is that many people defend FLCL Progressive due to thinking the original is overrated.
I assume these people are young SAO/Naruto fans who are pretty new to anime? Or just contrarians who hate the best stuff because that makes them cooler? "Idiot, Fire wasn't man's most important invention, the button down tweed blazer was man's most important invention by far, now go back to your plebeian life, the adults are talking!"
As things go it is the ONLY feature worthy of really deep examination by high level film students (you know the kind*).

It is the best coming of age piece I have seen.
Spotting the Christ figure is well just a little too easy.
The Vespa represents time (hence it is often doing what time does). Haruko represents hormones. The blue Rickenbacker represents puberty, etc. But the way they put it together and make it work.. immaculate. 

*if you do not they are the kind who have been taught to pull everything apart into symbolism and draw new stories, meanings, and statements from things.
Apocalypse Now starts with Martin Sheen laying on the bed but the shot is upside down. This is because Martin Sheen is the Hanged Man. As you all knowing in  tarot the The Hanged man represents life in suspension.

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2018, 10:31:33 pm »
I think it's new younger fans more than contrarians. 

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2018, 06:19:11 pm »
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Blu Ray yet.

My Amazon search shows a FLCL manga? Was that done after the original series?

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 08:07:43 pm »
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Blu Ray yet.

My Amazon search shows a FLCL manga? Was that done after the original series?

The manga I can find at my used book store. its weird and not that good. It didcome after the anime.

I'm surprised you cant find flcl on bluray. Unless you're talking about FLCL Progressive

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2018, 04:42:38 pm »
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Blu Ray yet.

My Amazon search shows a FLCL manga? Was that done after the original series?

The manga I can find at my used book store. its weird and not that good. It didcome after the anime.

I'm surprised you cant find flcl on bluray. Unless you're talking about FLCL Progressive
Yep progresive is the one I cannot find.
I have FLCL on the original DVDs and the Blu Ray.

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Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 07:26:25 pm »
I have a feeling they'll sell bku ray versions along side FLCL alternative. Or with the original series too.

 

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